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Photo #1 from Valhalla, USA by God. made on 2018-10-20 04:49 for Sola

Today I would like to posit a thought experiment, and I'd like to see if anyone can solve it.

Photo #2 from Valhalla, USA by God. made on 2018-10-20 04:49 for Sola

The premise is simple. Suppose we have two objects separated by exactly one meter of distance. You can run any experiment on these objects so long as they remain one meter apart at all points in the experiment. If for any reason they become less or more than one meter apart, the experiment is invalidated.

Photo #3 from Valhalla, USA by God. made on 2018-10-20 04:49 for Sola

The request is as follows: Increase the distance between these objects via experiment without invalidating the experiment.

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nachdenken!
Not sure if you accept this answer as it makes measurement of distance dependent on the spectator's viewpoint/position: Introduce a third mass into the system, which will curve space. This would lead e.g. to a distance >1m if measured from one of the two objects and =1 when measured from a neutral position (or vice versa)
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Rufus Kohn
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Spin them around each other till lightspeed and they become one object still 1 meter separated
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\mindawindfallwateryfiregrounded
How funny to see secular fundentalists making fun of religious people, when both types are just equivalent😃
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\mindawindfallwateryfiregrounded
And what about the experiment design? And what's the point of positing a null hypothesis about any sort of experiment as if every single one of them would just have to do with influencing Newtonian Mechanics, or Relativistic QFT? This social experiment is pointless. Another example of confusing theoretical modeling with experimental design, something that affects so many phycisists nowadays for the sake of ideology.
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nachdenken!
This is going to be interesting ... popcorn anybody? 🍿🍿🍿 munch munch munch 😂😂😂
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Freistaat
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nachdenken!, with pleasure! Have some icecream 🍦
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nachdenken!
Freistaat, cheers mate! Who gets the drinks?
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5̀øÑ͜ ̕0f Æ̨ ğłīťç̴H
nachdenken!, dunno, I just care some 🌮🌯
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Blind_Guardian ✝
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nachdenken!, Freistaat, 5̀øÑ͜ ̕0f Æ̨ ğłīťç̴H, Here i have some cocktails left🍹if anyone is interested
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🍼🏍🔥Garsbriel❓
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Blind_Guardian ✝ 🍹
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lafanga
Your experiment design assumes a Euclidean plane.. you included only 50% of the specs.. on a non Euclidean plane there is at least 2 sets of measurements between objects.. the inner distance and outer distance.. e.g. distance between my hands can be 1 meter or 44k km depending on which latitude I live in..
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\mindawindfallwateryfiregrounded
Then we would have to do n-dimensional generalizations by using differencial geometry, but that still fails for the logical necessity of designing an experiment that satisfies such a null hypotheses, sadly😃 I'd be really interesting to make this to fruition.
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Flesh is overrated
Put them in a metatrons cube, then they're 2 meters and more than 2 meters apart at any given time because the forth dimension
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skushwaha
It's good
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Lyonell
Add a third object such as a wall therefore the physical distance between the objects does not change but the travel distance between both has increased
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Lyonell
Or I could simply elevate one object
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God.投稿者
Elaborate on the second one.
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Lyonell
God. 🎃, just like with the sale of land on a hill. If angle of elevation is steeper than 45 degrees then it counts horizontally not vertically from starting to ending point.
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flack
Separate them in time. Measure one and then measure the other several years later. Also what are we calling the distance? Is it the distance between the closest points? or the centre of mass? Or the centre of volume? If we are allowed to vary any of those then that gives you some wiggle room. The idea above about deforming space time with gravity has merit, but I don’t know if that doesn’t violate the rules of the experiment. Distance has more than one definition. The two objects, should they possess the capability, could become emotionally distant from one another, or they could be made to relate to one another in any number of ways that could be described as distant.
God.投稿者
Ding ding ding, separation across the 4th dimension. Make a triangle whose distance from one object and height equate to the other object being on top of that triangle still being one meter away, then have the slope lead down until, at ground point it's exactly 1 meter away from the other object still. By doing this the objects are always one meter appart. Furthermore because one of the objects obtained a velocity it experienced some level of time dilation, separating itself from the other object through the fourth dimension, increasing the distance between them.
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God. 🎃, Unfortunately many physicists do not acknowledge that time dilation is just a theoretical construct with limited experimental input. Questioning special relativity is one taboo for mainstream phycisists, confusing math with phycics😃
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